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Community Meeting Chat Log
Date: March 5, 2026
Type: Community Meeting
This is the full chat log from the Nobodies Collective Community Meeting held on March 5, 2026. The chat captures real-time questions, comments, and reactions from community members during the meeting.
00:00:55
Daniel T.:
Track credit: https://soundcloud.com/digitalnerve/psyborg?ref=clipboard&p=i&c=1&si=88D859EABA5D46EFB247AFAB55880420
00:01:49
Alessio P.:
banger
00:03:43
Daniel T.:
We'll start at 5 past as usual (track should finish exactly then)
00:06:29
Pablo V.:
g0g0g0g0g0
00:06:43
Pablo V.:
gl
00:12:34
Pablo V.:
forgot to say: if we use the new site this year we would RENT, which would allow us to TRY BEFORE WE BUY, which de-risks the purchase in case we find any issues
00:14:27
Ant H.:
we kknow a lot of whats in there...
00:15:09
Ant H.:
if you want a .comprehensive' very long list of stuff that we think is in there.... talk to us at build/strike
00:15:23
Ant H.:
weve got lists
00:15:32
Ant H.:
and memories
00:15:43
Peter T.:
What about siting the containers when they get to the new site?
00:16:11
Daniela M.S.:
can you send them by email ants? pepe@nobodies.team
00:17:10
Sakolo S.:
isn't there a cash balance remaining with the old org? Perhaps they keep the cash and they give the containers to us free and clear?
00:17:29
Sakolo S.:
thus no transaction or renting
00:17:56
Rene B.:
Newsletter database?
00:18:19
Ben D.:
Name survey is still open!
00:18:37
Ben D.:
Check your email if you're in the association for an email from Opavote
00:18:51
Ben D.:
Help us choose the name!
00:19:01
Sakolo S.:
we don't need their name nor their website
00:19:04
Ben D.:
(Closes tomorrow night)
00:19:22
Sakolo S.:
just a link for curious visitors
00:19:26
Daniel T.:
285 options actually
00:19:37
Ward D:
Can you send the link to the board members as well @ Ben
00:19:46
Ant H.:
for build, i can only think of more problems trying to set up all new systems on a new piece of land... im struggling to see how we could do that without adding a lot of time to the build schedule.. like a lot
00:20:22
Ant H.:
we have a streamlined, cheap, repeatable, build system right now that has a lot to do with the physical site and how we use it...
00:20:52
Julian R.:
Thanks Ward for outlining the step-by-step plan for the new land! It's exciting to see how the event could expand. My only concern is that renting it might lock us into negotiations and potentially weaken our position when negotiating the purchase price. Keeping the old land as an option could preserve our leverage. Also, what is our target purchase price?
00:21:00
Ant H.:
the idea reinventing that wheel scares the shit out of me.. we need to talk through all the parts tho
00:21:44
Ben D.:
25 thousand*
00:22:46
Eric R.:
anyone have the discord server link handy?
00:22:55
Sakolo S.:
yeah we just need a link
00:23:24
Pablo V.:
Ants: I agree that it seems like a lot of work for this year and probably not the best idea. But we still wanted to put it for discussion. Personally I think that a smaller work event later in the year might accomplish the same and be less work
00:23:42
Pablo V.:
(Replying to new site for 2026)
00:24:39
Pablo V.:
Julian: you are totally right. We can mitigate this partially with contracts but not fully. I can explain if we go into a specific meeting
00:24:44
Ant H.:
strong agree.. i would love to move everything over.. but given the time crunch... i feel like we should work with our strengths, including working on a site we know really well...
00:25:03
Ant H.:
but we need to talk about it in the ML call like you were saying
00:25:07
Daniel T.:
e-Legal
00:25:12
Daniel T.:
not illegal
00:25:27
Pablo V.:
Wish we had started this in Nov :) but here we are!
00:25:40
Ant H.:
agreed
00:26:23
Pablo V.:
If we all agree it's not a good idea in that meeting we can also think what might be a good next step to test drive the new site before we buy
00:26:28
Daniel T.:
NoAir - event in the lake
00:27:03
Ward D:
@Ants The advantage of always starting on a blank canvas is that it will always be implemented from scratch. We also are thinking of scaling down the build structure to not burn out volunteers, so then its even more possible on the new land
00:28:10
Ellen K.:
QQ to make sure: For these legal issues, do barrios need to get all members to sign up on the nobodies site with names and contact info?
00:28:28
Al Rogers:
Now here we are
00:28:48
Daniela M.S.:
the camp lead
00:29:15
Ellen K.:
Oki, but no need to chase all the cats of the barrio to get them to sign up, perfect. <3
00:29:38
Ant H.:
@ward new site would increase the workload regardless. also build doesnt really scale. we build one gate no matter what, one MoN, one LNT etc.... so for the structures build... i would be worried about a whole new site
00:30:23
Pepe C.:
Let's gooooo Dani!!!
00:30:49
Ward D:
@Ants, can you elaborate when it would add workload during Build when we always start from scratch?
00:30:59
Ant H.:
were confident right now about repeating what we have done the past few years.... which makes for a smooth stress free build... on time under budget... i would be way less confident about doing the same thing on a different site... needs more talk
00:31:56
Ant H.:
we dont start from scratch... we know where all the water runs off that site, we know the prevailing winds, we know how the road work coming and going from the site, we know what to do in storms etc.... also the in ground
00:32:05
Sara d.A.P.:
How many tickets will be released?
00:32:16
Julian R.:
What can we do to help ticket sales?
00:32:22
Ant H.:
systems... it would be a bad year to find out that the plough doesnt work on the new site because of stones...
00:32:45
condor ..:
Are there any thought about a deadline for ticket sales? Like in previous years, so that total numbers are a bit predictable
00:32:57
Curious Creatures:
Yupz, borderlands competition
00:33:08
Daniel T.:
Race BL for it!
00:34:03
Curious Creatures:
Can we have a tiered ticket system price, even if it is a few euro, to incentive people to buy early?
00:34:13
Ward D:
@Ants, there are statements that visits and try outs can help with that, this is all information that can be check before build.
00:34:41
condor ..:
ALL Barrio leads and critical people already have Borderland tickets. The sale now is for stragglers and punters. IF it sells out, this is then a good time to push our event. The pain of people not getting Borderland tickets is real
00:34:57
Ant H.:
@ward. lets talk about this later in the ML call
00:35:20
Ward D:
@ Ants, lets move this to discord?
00:35:43
Ward D:
the ML call is not a place for an open discussion
00:35:57
Pablo V.:
Can Daniela share the Ticketing Lead / Team update too because this is open too
00:36:13
Justin B.:
2 yrs ago no?
00:36:27
Justin B.:
2024
00:37:11
Pablo V.:
I have strong recommendations from large events that tiered tickets are helpful, especially if paired with matching low income ticket allocations
00:40:10
Ward D:
https://discord.com/channels/1462886445583962245/1479200598057549884 new site discussion
00:42:13
Pepe C.:
Master Yoda says: Do or do not...there is no try
00:42:38
Tyche S.:
Yes great Q
00:43:28
Joao T.:
I really don't expect the event to happen if the world ends before July :P
00:44:03
Sara d.A.P.:
Is the event dependent on the ticket sale or is funding itself from other financial resources?
00:44:11
Joao T.:
Question is more about production-related / volunteer issues
00:44:32
Tyche S.:
Yeah, are there milestones linked to key roles being filled?
00:44:37
Ellen K.:
Re burnout: Not always easy for motivated newbs to know where and how to jump in to release pressure - is it imaginable to set something up where overworked peeps can flag that they need a happy helper even on a one-to-one basis? At the moment, the clickup says all roles are open and critical :D This makes it difficult to know how to effectively help relieve pain points... Thoughts? New energy and motivation is out here <3
00:44:46
Julian R.:
Bread and Tomato is always glad to host party under heavy storms!
00:45:07
Tyche S.:
Eg if there is no strike lead by X date, what's the plan?
00:45:59
humberto:
Seems like issues that would stop us from happening are issues that would've stopped us any other year as well.
00:46:04
Al Rogers:
Can we say in our networks that an event like the previous one is happening which will be named soon? Or are we literally not allowed to mention the name?
00:46:08
Heiko L.:
Is UT coming and/or red power?
00:49:47
Ward D:
Dont mention the name pls
00:49:55
Joao T.:
And still on "disaster scenarios", what's our readiness to operate this event at a financial loss? Say we sell like 2000 tickets but had budgeted for 2500.
00:49:59
Ant H.:
we cant edit the click list thing... if we could we would have a full dept
00:50:47
Joao T.:
Re: Name, I'm often just saying "Newhere" and pretend it's a typo :)
00:51:41
Pablo V.:
@Joao check the Go / No Go report for some preliminary detail on that. We will do our best to scale expenses to (ongoing / projected) sales
00:51:50
Pepe C.:
@Al Rogers...you can say there's a Spanish burning man if you want use a comparison
00:52:24
Tyche S.:
It was more an example, like at some point we need to know that people are going to step up to the main roles
00:52:53
Pablo V.:
On lead roles: we also want to do a bit of orga design and planning for 2027 as part of this year. To advance on future role preparation anywhere we can
00:53:06
humberto:
@pepe we're not an official burning man event. Don't use that. Their lawyers are reeeeeaaaal picky.
00:53:34
Al Rogers:
Thanks all
00:54:29
Pablo V.:
There are some ideas on how to turn people leaving roles into mentors, or having more overlap to reduce key people risk... if we become better at transferring responsibilities, it becomes easier for people who want it to take years off
00:54:35
Curious Creatures:
Alternative names: The spanish burn! Rogue burn! That desert burn!
00:57:31
Paul:
when are volunteer roles opening ie nomads to give a idea of interest?
00:58:13
Ant H.:
well said Joao
00:58:24
Curious Creatures:
Controversial proposal: how about a bit of paid promotion/marketing?
00:58:34
Come Play:
Not sure where this fits but C&P is going to discuss to "downsize" our usual camp activities and structures to have, among other reasons, more capacities for volunteering on NCA shifts. Maybe this is an interesting scenario for other barrios, too?
00:59:24
humberto:
@curious - I'm sure the comms team would LOVE to get paid
01:00:33
Ben D.:
Humans!
01:00:37
Jokin C.:
thats an example that seems a deal breaker, but without power grids, there's the option that each camp has his smaller genny
01:01:01
Daniel T.:
#adhd
01:01:04
Jokin C.:
this is how the big burn works
01:01:23
Pablo V.:
God bless C&P! Wish we could react to posts on this chat. Paid promo: one argument against it is that we dont want "the wrong" participants who aren't connected enough to get onboarded properly. As we are all a connected bunch. We can take some new people but not a large %
01:01:26
Ant H.:
i dont have good audio... but i totally agree with Joao, we can start thinking about whats going to happen instead of worrying about what might happen.... its a big day
01:01:38
Jokin C.:
just as example of other way of doing things, not saying that we do that
01:02:30
Jeronimo F.:
Yes, at BM camps have their own generators and it works. Having a grid would be amazing but should not be a deal breaker. Only issue is that it puts financial pressure on camps to buy generators which is an upfront investment many camps might not be able to do at short notice
01:03:10
Curious Creatures:
"The wrong audience" i mean target the advertisement towards burners and burner correlated communities.
01:03:44
Julian R.:
@ Come and Play Absolutely! Some camps are stepping up already, for example the Garden for a part of the power grid. Us (B&T) might also be able to support. Let's bring this the barrios discord: https://discord.com/channels/1462886445583962245/1470859928720773175
01:03:55
Curious Creatures:
The yellowgrid is/was so nice last years and definitely made life a lot cheaper and more convenient for a lot of yellow camps
01:04:06
Paul:
from gate we have plans
01:05:19
condor ..:
Paid promotion has gotta be Ryanair inflight magazine. A classic. It's been 10 years since last time ;)
01:05:26
Sakolo S.:
get creative on marketing, make a flag/sign and bicycle around BCN madrid etc
01:05:30
Ant H.:
isnt no marketing one of the principles?
01:06:28
Sakolo S.:
we should also start thinking about some "Ambassador" type efforts at other events
01:06:42
Ant H.:
actually... if build is a paid job, we can move to the new site.... no worries
01:06:57
Come Play:
We're having a call next week, happy to talk about barrio things after that :) I'm trying to get a consensus about a way forward first.
01:07:12
Sakolo S.:
and have some sort of consensus on how we want to present the new face of the event
01:07:34
Nico - Troidemi:
I want to help if I can free myself from job! Estimated week about build start?
01:07:55
Curious Creatures:
Burning man markets themselves
01:07:59
condor ..:
Marketing is OK for BM :)
01:08:03
Sakolo S.:
its no marketing INSIDE the event
01:08:20
condor ..:
marketing ain't necessarily commodification
01:08:24
Curious Creatures:
BM has ad campaigns
01:08:29
Sakolo S.:
when event is running
01:08:36
humberto:
@sakolo lets loose 1000 raccoons in Barcelona with little flags!!
01:08:42
Ant H.:
burners talking about burning man all the time is enough marketing isnt it?
01:09:01
Sakolo S.:
Afrika Burn and Flamingalo
01:09:10
Sakolo S.:
Waking Life
01:09:19
Ant H.:
ive got a question
01:09:23
Michelle T.:
Marketing would attract people who don't get the ethos and are there for the party/orgie and dilute the proportion of volunteers. No thanks.
01:09:28
Sakolo S.:
All these before our event
01:09:40
Ant H.:
i want to start a podcast... does anyone have experience?
01:09:51
Ant H.:
about the community obvs
01:09:59
Curious Creatures:
Michelle, that is an assumption
01:10:11
Ant H.:
lets talk on discord...
01:10:16
Sakolo S.:
thats why do more of an Ambassador effort, where you meet and know the ones you want to attract
01:10:37
Joao T.:
Agreed that marketing could attract the wrong crowd, but I think that's the challenge.
01:11:14
Sara d.A.P.:
I think this is the kind of event that you get to know and comes to your life when is the right time and you are ready to go. No marketing campaigns necessary
01:11:26
condor ..:
But honestly, dropping ticket links on the Borderland facebook group as soon as Borderland sells out is probably as good free publicity you can get
01:11:32
Joao T.:
I'm not sure we need 500 extra "dead weight" participants, but there's always a learning curve for virgins anyway.
01:11:48
Ant H.:
does anyone know who the current Regional Reps are for BM in Europe? do they have one for each country?
01:11:53
Nico - Troidemi:
I'd like to help with build if I can free myself from job. Estimated week build start?
01:12:16
Paul:
is it legal to buy the marketing emails from the previous organisation
01:13:37
Sakolo S.:
all we would need are some creative and beautiful flyers, and then give these to people we feel would be good additions to the community
01:14:37
condor ..:
@Ant Regional reps is a bit all over the place. Some smaller countries have none, other have usually 2. I don't think they are particularly interesting from marketing point of view.
01:14:41
Ant H.:
@nico, we usually recruit for different periods of time. depending on what you can do or want to do... but for most people its a week or so before the event.... and remember strike is just as important... its a week or so after the event
01:15:14
Paul:
flyers worked well in the 80s for stonehenge etc
01:15:24
Ant H.:
Redacted Burn....
01:15:38
Nico - Troidemi:
Thanks Ant. I thought it would be more.
01:15:47
Kajo K.:
Can't they just set up a new newsletter and send a bunch of festival recommendations to all the people on the mail list? This event is just one of them to make the distance obvious?
01:15:53
Curious Creatures:
Thanks bye!
01:16:05
Glitch Barrio:
re Marketing: I would also propose to do more outreach to get visibility in the burner community. The event we are in for is often overlooked as it does not get amplified by BM Org like the Sheep, being close to a party capital like Kiezburn. We had historically avoided to be very visible. While we have a big advantage in terms of big art and low regulations about camp and other structures. We are visibly stunning. Even an "official" youtube video showing what we got while addressing the ethos can do a lot. Why do I think this works? I was drawn in by this documentary I randomly stumbled upon: https://vimeo.com/169617103
01:16:15
condor ..:
muted
01:16:25
Franck M.:
Thank you!
01:16:32
Romy B.:
seems I'm muted by the system
01:16:40
condor ..:
I can hear her but i'm in the same house
01:16:48
condor ..:
she is muted
01:17:09
Curious Creatures:
Use our BM connections and send out a marketing mail via them
01:17:26
Curious Creatures:
Jackrabbit has a big reach
01:18:02
humberto:
@curious we're not a BM event though.
01:18:07
Romy B.:
On the Euroburner facebook page, some people say an event is going ahead (using a name that belongs to another organisation). Is this something we need to be concerned about?
01:18:24
Glitch Barrio:
Do we have BM connections? I think the previous event was not part of the "official" regional network and therefore BM was ignoring it...
01:18:47
Romy B.:
There are about 3-4 recent posts...
01:18:57
Ant H.:
we can still use all the Facebook groups? Euroburners etc... we should be in those groups telling people whats happening
01:19:03
Michelle T.:
The previous event was an official BM regional.
01:19:11
Romy B.:
with links to this association
01:19:19
Ant H.:
snap, romy had the same idea
01:19:38
Rene B.:
Last year we explored the idea of introducing parking/car tickets to gather extra revenue. Is this still something that's on the table?
01:19:54
Glitch Barrio:
@Romy make a post correcting them ^^
01:20:26
humberto:
@michelle are we sure about that? We were never listed on the site of BM events.
01:20:33
Joao T.:
What does it mean to be an official BM event? Are there pros / cons? Do we want that and what would we need to become one?
01:20:37
Glitch Barrio:
@Michelle: Thanks for clearing that up! It's noted
01:20:48
Michelle T.:
Yes, certain.
01:20:52
Ant H.:
im not 100%, but i think they are community groups...
01:21:36
Rene B.:
The Euroburners group is a community group to my knowledge
01:22:26
Ant H.:
luckily, the previous org didnt make many channels.... just the newsletter and the insta....
01:22:44
Ant H.:
there are loads that are community run
01:22:48
Cayce:
The previous event is currently listed on the BM Regionals website for 2026 - that's probably worth correcting
01:23:21
condor ..:
If any of you need some help with coordinating some marketing towards Borderland groups, I know the channels and the ticket release structure very well. But this is in 5 days time, so ping me on discord ASAP if u want
01:23:55
Paloma Z.:
The previous event has been an official regional for 20 years
01:24:05
Joao T.:
The 10 principles are under copyright?
01:24:13
Curious Creatures:
And you can say that you are the "Spanish burning man"
01:24:17
Rene B.:
Is there cost involved to be official BM event?
01:24:21
Ant H.:
there are lots of large old burns around the world that arent official
01:24:26
Paloma Z.:
It is automatically renewed every year
01:24:47
Glitch Barrio:
If they help with legal stuff we should become an official regional event ASAP :)
01:24:51
Michelle T.:
Rene: not afaik
01:25:11
Curious Creatures:
Sounds worth pursuing
01:25:50
Ant H.:
clout
01:26:00
Justin B.:
Yes they saved our asses with ticketing at least once
01:26:26
Ant H.:
also
01:26:31
Ant H.:
clout
01:26:40
condor ..:
Exchange programs too
01:27:01
Paloma Z.:
Yes when PayPal locked us out years ago bm sorted it for the event
01:27:14
Glitch Barrio:
https://burningman.org/global-events-groups/burning-man-regional-network/connect-with-a-local-group/spain/
01:27:21
Ant H.:
is the Meta Lead meeting open to all?
01:27:26
Julian R.:
wait, assets and asses are different things?
01:27:40
Justin B.:
sometimes
01:27:47
Ant H.:
i heard Daniel mention it in his intro
01:28:07
Nico - Troidemi:
Thanks to all of you!
01:28:30
Franck M.:
You rock!
01:28:39
Peter T.:
Ciao
01:28:49
Lana B.:
Thank you!!!
01:28:57
Daniel T.:
<3