Community Meeting Chat Log - February 26, 2026

00:04:17 Daniel Tenner: We will as usual wait a few minutes for people to join...

00:04:23 Daniel Tenner: ...but this time...

00:04:30 Daniel Tenner: ...with music...

00:04:33 Pablo Villalba: *tunes*

00:04:47 Diego CAYUELA: woop wooop

00:04:54 Daniel Tenner: <3

00:05:25 Pablo's Notetaker: Hi, I'm an AI assistant helping Pablo Villalba take notes for this meeting. Follow along the transcript here: https://otter.ai/u/4h978LuqIZbh_SvCfHuLTIUBOz8?utm_source=va_chat_link_1

00:05:43 Pablo Villalba: uh im gonna kill that notetaker

00:05:59 Diego CAYUELA: murderer!!1

00:06:10 Pablo Villalba: need track names

00:06:17 MagaliBee: Thanks for the music 💪💪💪

00:06:25 Daniel Tenner: Dan Tenner - SOS :-)

00:06:50 Diego CAYUELA: suno or lyria ? or hand made?

00:06:56 Pablo Villalba: sickk

00:07:08 Chris Olsen: better share your band camp Daniel

00:07:12 Daniel Tenner: Hand made all the way back in 2018

00:07:23 Diego CAYUELA: dope!!

00:07:30 Daniel Tenner: thanks :-)

00:07:49 Frank Fanteev: Very nice

00:08:06 Daniel Tenner: Chris when you want m to take it off let me know

00:08:27 Chris Olsen: let's end the party at 5 past

00:08:51 Daniel Tenner: ok

00:08:57 Pablo Villalba: DOUBLE TOTOROOO

00:09:01 Daniel Tenner: perfect timing

00:09:15 Daniela M Siem: totorossss

00:09:46 Josef Max Hajda: how cute <3

00:09:50 Michelle Thomson: Next meeting can we have a soundbath instead please!

00:10:03 Daniel Tenner: so long as it's not copyright sure

00:10:17 Diego CAYUELA: woooooo

00:10:30 Michelle Thomson: Nothing but live acoustic instruments !

00:12:38 Diego CAYUELA: wooowoooowoooooo paloma and erin ftw

00:12:47 Daniel Tenner: <3

00:13:02 Romy Boettger: yeay Paloma & Erin!!!

00:13:59 Diego CAYUELA: when can we expect an answer regarding the contracts?

00:15:05 Diego CAYUELA: cool!!

00:16:07 Diego CAYUELA: thx

00:17:21 Ant Hiron: thankyou all so much, this is really critical stuff obvs and the rest of us can only cheer from the sidelines while youre doing it, but we're all really grateful

00:21:42 ela tella: Have you looked into Holocracy as a structure?

00:21:54 Chris Olsen: Don't get Daniel started on holocracy

00:22:00 Pablo Villalba: hahahaha

00:25:47 Pablo Villalba: i would add: not just decentralizing, but intentional "organizational design":

00:27:14 Pepe Carrillo: Hippie lawyera are welcome too :)

00:27:24 Diego CAYUELA: #governance in discord :)

00:28:09 Ant Hiron: Build and Strike is and Ad-Hocraccy

00:28:36 Paloma Zulueta: Its good to see that the NCA board has the same intention of the SL and is taking the same position with asking Metaleads and Leads at GNSL every meeting and at the ALM to help directors make every informed decision fair.

00:29:11 Chris Olsen: The Discord link is here for anyone who needs it: https://discord.gg/Xmj6YbFwSM

00:30:08 Paul Hardcastle: @paloma hah I was just thinking that, 'this sounds familiar'

00:31:34 Peter Drier: the board is in some essence a shell between the community and the outside world.

00:33:07 Felicitas P: What's the best way to contact Ben when interested in contributing to the governance? There are at least two Ben's in discord 😅

00:33:28 Chris Olsen: the #governance channel will find anyone involved as well

00:33:39 Daniel Tenner: Are you really bendy?

00:33:52 Ben Donaldson: Its me! my handle is benadvante

00:34:11 Felicitas P: Thanks! 🙏

00:34:26 Anna Tam: Yep, we have a civic responsibility burning principle as well as radical self expression 🌸✨

00:36:11 Daniel Tenner: Thank you governance group!!!

00:37:41 Diego CAYUELA: thank you!!

00:42:06 Diego CAYUELA: hahahaha thanks, and sorry for my multiple edits!

00:43:02 Heiko Lampe: It is in the inbox ,,, and good package

00:43:25 Diego CAYUELA: READ THE INFO PACK BEFORE VOTING

00:43:33 Daniel Tenner: THANK YOU

00:48:14 Michel Uyttebroeck: 🙏

00:48:21 Diego CAYUELA: very interesting points

00:49:17 Ant Hiron: disagree that it could 'end the event'. thats catastrophising

00:51:10 Ant Hiron: its a bit unfair of justin to just throw in his opinion bit not be here to talk about it..

00:51:28 Tyche Siebers: he is genuinly sorry not to be here

00:52:02 Ant Hiron: of course

00:52:07 Chris Olsen: I have to go in the middle of what is a very exciting discussion! But I am looking forward to watching it back later.

00:52:56 Peter Drier: 30 days by statute, but realistically 45 days with notification

00:53:19 Diego CAYUELA: bye chris :)

00:53:28 Daniel Tenner: Bye Chris!

00:55:03 Tyche Siebers: definitly

00:55:15 Tyche Siebers: I think if you asked a random association memenber what that is

00:55:22 Tyche Siebers: they might not be able to answer

00:55:49 Ben Donaldson: Pepe (as legal advisor) may also be able to directly respond to someof the legal questions

00:55:52 Ant Hiron: with an assosicaiton we have the possibility to collect money in memberships fees. not right away.. but its a good way to even out the losses and expenditures of production

00:56:06 Daniel Tenner: And we can also take donations

00:56:18 Tyche Siebers: so no one is currently being paid?

00:56:34 Daniel Tenner: @Tyche this will be answered shortly

00:56:38 Tyche Siebers: because it states that someone has already been hired

00:56:46 Tyche Siebers: okay thanks :)

00:56:54 Pablo Villalba: we expect to be sharing finances to the maximum granularity we can get to without sharing personal data

00:57:11 Ben Donaldson: personal liability

00:57:14 Pablo Villalba: none of the board members are compensated

00:58:09 Tyche Siebers: no I mean the coordinator I know the board isnt - also fine if so! just curious

00:58:13 Diego CAYUELA: Dan, as mc can you switch the pinned view of who's talking?

00:58:45 Diego CAYUELA: thx

00:59:32 Tyche Siebers: on what terms?

00:59:55 Tyche Siebers: okay cool

01:00:23 Pablo Villalba: multiple board members offered to provide loans until we have donations or ticket sales

01:00:34 Tyche Siebers: yeah I don't mean any of this to sound like I think anything is being done wrong, I just don't know these things and am curious about how it is working

01:01:04 Ant Hiron: he ran awya from the hard questions

01:01:08 Tyche Siebers: its great to hear that you have such confidence that you would do that

01:01:21 Tyche Siebers: just it's good to have clarity for eveyrone on how it is happening

01:01:27 Ben Donaldson: he 'went into a tunnel'

01:02:14 Peter Drier: we've had a number of expenses so far, legal, accountant, google, mailchimp, hetzner, .. Compared to our annual budget, this is roughly what the "geeks" budget has been historically within the SL so far.

01:02:23 Ant Hiron: can you share legal docs where we can see some of ths?

01:02:28 Tyche Siebers: would you and the other lawyers provide a written statement that this is the case ?

01:02:42 Ant Hiron: or that

01:02:51 Tyche Siebers: yeah or the legal docs

01:05:46 Daniel Tenner: It will be shared

01:06:30 Ben Donaldson: it is contingent on that for me

01:08:44 Ant Hiron: Wooo love a Spanish Asso....

01:09:15 Tyche Siebers: the other thing to address on the financial side is what happens if the event is cancelled after a GO

01:09:29 Ant Hiron: is there more liabilty for Board members?

01:10:03 Pablo Villalba: yes, and that is why it's in our interest to do things as cleanly as possible

01:10:25 Peter Drier: There is insurance that covers the board in a similar fashion to the insurance that covers directors of an SL.

01:10:32 Tyche Siebers: EG what is the plan if we have spent ticket money on vendor deposits, but then need to refund because we don't sell enough tickets overall

01:12:52 Pepe Carrillo: Put simply, directors have more 'skin in the game'. They are legally responsible for the activities of the association so their exposure to liability is higher, especially in cases of misconduct (and similar). This means, shady business = crazy fines + jail time (potential).

01:15:01 Pablo Villalba: thank you power team!!!

01:15:47 Heiko Lampe: Do we have some "deal breakers" defined? Even if all is green and one of those fails, we would fail?

01:19:03 Peter Drier: Ultimately, we aim to minimize our payments until it's required. Not much comes due prior to May.

01:20:38 Ben Donaldson: best way to minimise uncertainty

01:20:45 Ben Donaldson: get into crypto

01:20:49 Tyche Siebers: everyone becomes a cryptobro in the end it seems

01:20:53 Paul Hardcastle: directors onlyfans when?

01:20:58 Paul: sell t shirts with support logo

01:21:06 Ant Hiron: NoCoin... Ill selll my MelaniaCoins to buy it all

01:21:28 Ben Donaldson: Noborgies

01:21:36 Daniela M Siem: lololol

01:21:41 Rene Buter: You can mine coins at Ubertown

01:21:45 Paul Hardcastle: bang for your bucks

01:22:12 ela tella: C&P is happy to bring the mobile orgy dome

01:22:42 Daniel Tenner: "Bang for your bucks" lol

01:27:31 Pablo Villalba: a friend wanted to join you @Anna ill send then your way

01:27:44 Ben Donaldson: Thanks for your work Anna!

01:28:54 condor ..: If we are gonna discuss the go / no go a bit further, what discord channel?

01:29:13 Pablo Villalba: we could take questions now

01:29:36 Pablo Villalba: and then follow up on discord. should i make a public channel?

01:29:50 Joao Torres: I'm also confused about which channel at discord the go / no-go is being discussed. Is it #governance?

01:30:03 Daniela M Siem: #governance?

01:30:07 Kate Beecroft: yes, it's #governance

01:30:12 Anna Tam: I see discussion about it on governance

01:30:20 Pablo Villalba: or #governance if you all prefer

01:30:44 condor ..: 👍

01:31:04 Pablo Villalba: i can send an #update to direct people there with whatever kate, ela and juilian would like

01:31:09 Heiko Lampe: As a question (have a lot of background noise), are there defined deal breakers?

01:32:43 Kate Beecroft: like 'non negotiables'?

01:33:15 Paul Hardcastle: if continuity is a problem then surely breaking the continuity fixes that?

01:33:45 Ant Hiron: the continuity is legal not chronological

01:33:50 Joao Torres: Taking 1 year off is enough? Should it be 3 or 10?

01:34:14 Joao Torres: That's exactly my question, to the lawyers, which I'm not

01:34:38 Tyche Siebers: the thing is a lot of it is the same, the people, the stuff, the site, the vendors

01:34:53 Ant Hiron: ive never been here before Senor Agente

01:35:00 Ben Donaldson: which is why there is a non-zero risk -but that risk doesn't go away with a year off

01:35:25 Joao Torres: Re: Tyche: If that is the concern, so the solution isn't taking a break but changing the whole structure

01:36:13 Pablo Villalba: i miss emoji reactions in chat comments

01:36:22 Ant Hiron: same!

01:36:36 Paul Hardcastle: and being able to @ people

01:36:43 Joao Torres: Back to Zoom? :P

01:36:54 Ant Hiron: zoom chat is more fun

01:37:12 condor ..: I assumed skipping a year would be a benefit regarding continuity, so thanks for you perspective Pepe.

01:37:59 Tyche Siebers: (There is mixed opinion about this online, in some places it does say that it helps to have a break, and there are three people on the board who were heavilty involved in NOrg)

01:38:25 Ben Donaldson: it doesn't affect the legal exposure to succession

01:38:38 Ben Donaldson: and its not about involvement

01:38:46 Ben Donaldson: it's about legal responsibility

01:38:53 Ben Donaldson: executive responsibility

01:38:57 Tyche Siebers: Okay cool

01:39:26 Tyche Siebers: sorry for all the questions, there is just a lot to understand!

01:39:38 Daniel Tenner: Questions are TOTALLY fair and welcome

01:39:49 Ben Donaldson: Yeah fantastic questions

01:39:55 Daniela M Siem: this is the place for questions! <3

01:40:01 Daniel Tenner: Apologies for not having all the answers at hand - we will get there

01:40:08 Michelle Thomson: Thank you for your questions Tyche!

01:40:11 Tyche Siebers: <3

01:42:08 Daniel Tenner: Apologies for the time overrun - we will hear Pablo and Ela next and then we can continue on Discord <3

01:42:54 Diego CAYUELA: we can alos join discord voice caat

01:43:01 Diego CAYUELA: chat**

01:43:06 Paul Hardcastle: say NO to chronology. Abolish Time.

01:44:51 Kate Beecroft: also, it's important to vote.

01:45:16 Ant Hiron: the team did a huge amount of work in no time... th information isnt perfect but its really great to have as good as we can.... rather than nothing... well done Govteam

01:46:42 Felicitas P: I need to jump. I enjoyed this discussion a lot. Thanks everyone!

01:46:49 Daniel Tenner: <3

01:46:57 Daniel Tenner: thanks everyone, sorry for the overrun

01:47:35 Anna Tam: Totoro says goodbye and blesses you all

01:47:43 Daniela M Siem: totoro <3

01:47:51 Diego CAYUELA: can chat in voice chat discord

01:47:59 Diego CAYUELA: bye yall

01:48:05 Sarah Frost: share your tune in Discord pls!